Balancing Hormones With Food (KYF152)

Hormones… love ’em or hate ’em… they’re super important.

If they’re in balance, we’re on fire – productive, energetic, and happy.

Out of balance, we’re out of whack, burned out, wiped out, cranky, or worse.

Which is why I’m thrilled to introduce you to my new friend, Magdalena Wszelaki. She’s an expert at balancing hormones… with food.

Here’s what’s on the agenda for today’s podcast:

• Magdalena’s story — she’s in remission from Graves’ and Hashimoto’s diseases and feeling rested up from adrenal fatigue
• how can one use food and specifically “seed rotation” to rebalance their hormones?
• the powerful connection between digestion and hormonal health
• and more! (we took questions on the live show)

Want to learn more about the potential for balancing your hormones with food? Great! The podcast, video replay, transcript, seed rotation image, and links are all below. Enjoy and take heart!

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Video from Blab

I recorded this podcast live on Blab last week and here’s the video from that! It’s just like the audio file above, except you can see it, too. 🙂

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The Transcript

Wardee: Hey everyone! Welcome to Know Your Food With Wardee this is episode 152. You can find the show notes, links and more at KnowYourFoodPodcast.com/152.

I’m so glad you’re here!

If you’re here with me on the live blab with my guest Magdalena welcome to you. This is going to be a great, great show. I’m pretty sure I told you all the things you can do but here’s a quick recap. You can click the hands at the bottom of each of our faces to give applause so if you like something we’re saying or you just appreciate what’s going on, please be liberal with the clapping. We love it!

In the right hand column of the blab you can share your comments and if you add a /Q It will turn it in to a question that Magdalena and I will address at the end, or during, if it’s pertinent. And this blab is being recorded and will be released as a podcast on iTunes this Friday, March 11. So it will be up here to refer to.

Or if you’re listening then, welcome to you and if you want to see the video recording all you have to do is go to KnowYourFoodPodcast.com/152 and you can see the video. You can switch from audio to video and we’ll also have the show notes there for you. So welcome! This is going to be great!

I want to say a special hello to my guest Magdalena.

Hello!

(Magdalena laughs)

Magdalena: Great to be here.

Wardee: It’s great to have you here. I just want to tell everybody that a couple of weeks ago Magdalena and I met in person. We visited and connected and it was wonderful. And when I learned that she had such an amazing story about recovering from serious hormone disorders I knew that I needed to introduce her to all of you.

One of the things that comes up over and over again at Traditional Cooking School with many of the women, and moms, and families are hormone disorders. It’s rampant! It’s wonderful to be a part of a community with all of you who are attuned to these issues and open to talking about it.

I love Magdalena’s approach because she works on balancing hormones with food and we all love real food and good food. This is going to be so enlightening.

Magdalena, let’s start out by you sharing your story. If you could tell us how life was before and the things you’ve recovered from and how that went, I know that everyone here would love to learn a little bit more about you in terms of this hormone balancing.

Magdalena: Sure! Yeah. So you know, it all started with me in 2008 when I was officially diagnosed with Hashimoto’s disease. Then after that I had adrenal fatigue so very, very high cortisol levels because of my crazy job in advertising. It became estrogen dominance a few years later with severe hair loss which wasn’t because of thyroid it was because of estrogen.

I know we like to tell the stories from the time we’re diagnosed because its official, we know it. But the truth is when I look back at things it took probably many, many years to come to the point. Especially with developing a serious auto-immune disease like Hashimoto’s.

Hashimoto’s is an auto-immune disease where the immune disease starts to attack your own thyroid and because of that attack the thyroid slows down and becomes hypo-active or under active.

In everything they teach things we shouldn’t be doing even as parents for our kids. I was the perfect case to develop an auto-immune disease. I was not breast-fed, as a baby I was a formula baby. I ended up in a hospital in the first month of my life with antibiotics which changes your micro-flora for life. Many of us have no idea about that. But what do you do? When you have a child with pneumonia in her first month. Subsequently right off the back I’d always been ridden by a lot of eczema, horrendous ear infections but later in my teenage years had food sensitives which we had no idea about. My mom had no idea about. Growing up on a western diet where you live with dairy and gluten and eggs and finding out I have a sensitivity to all three of them.

(Magdalena laughs).

So your literally eating food that you’re not tolerating very well and this caused these problems I was having as a child. Later it became severe acne and horrendous PMS. I had such terrible PMS that I would not go to school or to work on that day, I’d have to stay in. And then later it became Hashimoto’s disease and is just this vicious cycle.

What I do realize today it was just the years of abuse, unknowingly, on my own body, really taxing my immune system through the gut — so very unhealthy digestive system. I always took a lot of antibiotics; I had chronic UTI (urinary tract infections), candida problems, sinus infections and ear infections.

So what does the doctor do when you have those infections? They put you on more antibiotics.

I think it was the years of just doing these things. Again, I look at it today with a prospective with a lot of forgiveness. In some ways you might say; “How stupid is that of doing this to yourself? Didn’t you know better?”

But no, I didn’t.

And a lot of people don’t.

So that’s where I was. 8 years ago I made a huge change. I got out of my job in advertising, I set up my practice. I became trained in nutrition. And today I am living in total remission from Hashimoto’s disease, which my doctor told me was coincidental.

(Magdalena and Wardee laugh)

Wardee: But you know better. It’s no coincidence.

Magdalena: Yeah. My adrenals are in perfect shape and I don’t have estrogen dominance any more. So it’s took a lot of work but that’s exactly what I teach today. How to have that so somebody doesn’t take 8 years to figure it all out. They can manage their life much better and have a much better quality of life.

Wardee: That is an amazing story! I love transformations like that. So one of the key things you teach is seed rotation. I’d love for you to explain that. What is seed rotation? Who can use it? What does it do for us? Just tell us the power of seed rotation.

Magdalena: So seed rotation the concept is basically to use certain seeds in the first part of the cycle: the concept applies for peri-menopausal, menopausal and women who are still menstruating. This is actually a universal concept that applies to any woman. I work only with women so I’ll just talk about that. This is not going to work for a man, that much.

What it is if you are still menstruating the first part of your cycle which is basically from day 1 (the first day of your period) to day 14, if you have a 28 day cycle, then day 14 from day 1 to 14 you really want to help boost your estrogen levels. The second part of the cycle you want to optimize progesterone production to prepare ourselves for pregnancy or if we’re not getting pregnant for getting our period in a healthy way.

The way we can do this, which is really quite incredible, is by using seeds.

It goes back to the idea of using real food which I know you like to work with so much, right?

Wardee: For sure.

Magdalena: So the first part of the cycle what we can do in order to boost estrogen levels is to use flax seed and pumpkin seed, preferably in a ground form. 1 tablespoon of each is really great.

Then you switch over to sesame seeds and sunflower seeds in the second part of the cycle because of the vitamin E and content of zinc they contain they will help with progesterone production.

For women who are peri-menopausal and your cycle is all over the place you can start it from any day you want.

Women who are menopausal this actually really helps with hot flashes. Women who are menopausal tend to have low estrogen levels and in order to boost your estrogen levels, especially the good estrogen, you can start off any day of the month you want and just do it in the 14 day rotation.

more info (recipes and tips on seed rotation)

Wardee: Okay, that’s great. I want to tell everyone who’s listening, Magdalena actually has a visual of this seed rotation so if you go to the show notes KnowYourFoodPodcast.com/152 I have that graphic there for you so you can see the seed rotation cycle. It’s very, very enlightening and it’s visual with the different seeds.

Magdalena, can I just ask should somebody be doing seed rotation if they have a hormonal problem or issue or is this something that any woman can do; menstruating, peri-menopause, or menopause?

Magdalena: Yeah, so it’s a great question. Like with a lot of things in life and with any superfood, I mean eggs are wonderful but then there are some people who are allergic to eggs or they have a food sensitivity to eggs like the way I do for example. It’s a great question because always precaution is important.

So if you are having digestive problems so much so that you can’t tolerate flax seed then definitely this method is not recommended. Or if you for example, try it for the first three or four days and instead of feeling better or having more energy and having better bowel movements and just feeling more energetic which typically happens with a lot of women. If you are having the opposite reaction or you are having worse PMS, you start developing tender breasts, then it’s a sign you’re not using the flax seed as you should.

What I see is maybe 1 out of 10 women tend to get the opposite reaction. I see this with a lot of other foods included like maca, Brussel sprouts, while a lot of people respond well there is always about that 1 person in 10 that will have the opposite reaction of what you are expecting. So it is very important to honor your body and listen to it and say “you know what, maybe this is not for me.”

Wardee: That’s really good advice. I think it goes without saying but I’m so glad we said it. What works for one person may not work for everyone so I love that Magdalena has that experience to say 1 in 10 may have the adverse effect and if that’s you, pay attention to it like Magdalena said:
Honor your body.

Very, very important.

Moving on a bit Magdalena, you are also very interested in digestion as it relates to hormonal health. So can you talk to us about that connection?

Magdalena: One real premise of my practice is to not just look at “I have this hormonal problem so I need to have this particular food.” The question of “If I have a thyroid problem what foods should I be consuming?” I think we’ve been trained to think of it this way. “I have hot flashes I’m going to do black cohosh or I’ll do maca or whatever.” For some women this works and for other women it works for a while and then it stops working.

So what I’ve discovered in my practice is that when we step back and really recover and rebalance three really important body systems in us, including digestion.

The three systems is digestion, sugar levels and liver health. Those three body systems when they are well taken care of and a lot of good TLC goes into that amazing things start happening. Then we don’t need to rely on black cohosh or progesterone creams or dosing up our thyroid medications, things start to fall in to place.

I’m glad you asked about digestion. To me digestion is the first foundation of good hormonal health. Think of it as if you want to build a house on a hill that is steep and you don’t have a good foundation in place, it’s going to be a very shaky home. The same thing happens with the hormones.

Why is it important?

A lot of things: Anybody that has chronic digestive issues going on puts a strain on their adrenals. You are talking about developing adrenal exhaustion just from having digestive issues. I know you’ve spent a lot of time on gut restoration, right? I want to emphasize that feeling bloated, constipated, having gas, acid reflux, pain in the tummy, pain in the digestive system, it’s all signs of a very compromised and struggling digestion. They are never okay. So many people may be having many of these issues and assume this is okay. It’s not.

Every time you do have those chronic digestive problems you are basically giving yourself a cortisol shot which can lead to adrenal exhaustion.

That’s number one. Number two – there’s actually a lot of other issues but I’m just going to talk about two since this is a short podcast. Number two is something most doctors don’t realize today. There is something in our gut, in our small intestine, called the estrobolome. The estrobolome is a subset of the bacteria of the microflora in the gut that specifically metabolizes estrogens. If you just google estrobolome there is all of this research coming out that shows that women that have been having estrogen related problems such as breast cancer, thyroid cancer, ovarian cancers, problems with uterus, endometriosis, any form of estrogen dominance in general, terrible PMS, they are all related to poor estrogen metabolism. They also have digestive issues. Specifically having problems with poor bacterial flora.

I know you are huge on fermentation. So am I. That is the first stepping stone to good hormonal health.

Before you dive off and say “I am going to take this supplement or that supplement, this herb or that.” Always start off with, when you are having hormonal imbalance, start off with your digestion and you’ll be amazed how many of those hormonal symptoms go away when you repair your gut.

Wardee: I think it’s so true. It’s not just a cliché that we say all the time that our health begins in the gut. We have all of these diseases and these symptoms and so many of them fall in to place, with the positive, by helping them, and our health falls into place when we focus on the true root cause: The health of our gut.

It’s highly related to digestion and hormones and everything with all these rampant illnesses in our society. So that’s fantastic information.

You have something you are sipping on. Show it off.

For our podcast listeners if you’d like to see what Magdalena is drinking go to KnowYourFoodPodcast.com/152, she has a beautiful tall glass. I don’t know what kind of glass it is but I imagine an ice cream sundae in it.

(Both laugh)

She has a beautiful green juice in it. So tell us what you’re drinking.

Magdalena: I’m drinking something that is really huge to help the liver. The liver plays an incredibly important role in hormonal rebalancing and we can talk about that in a minute. In this juice, I drink it daily. I don’t like to do juices in the morning because I feel it’s too light for me. I need something more grounding and sustaining first thing in the morning but I like this as a mid-day drink. In this drink today I started off with some dandelion leaves, because dandelion is hugely beneficial for the liver, I also put in ginger which is one of my favorites, I did put in parsley because it is not only huge in vitamin C but also it supports the liver. As I juiced it I put it in my Vitamix to give it a spin and I put in flax seed because I try to find ways to incorporate those 2 tablespoons of flax seed in my own life every day and I did put some broccoli sprouts in it. Broccoli sprouts are amazing. There is all this research coming up.

If you go to pubmed.com which is where all of the medical research papers are published research papers are now showing broccoli sprouts can do the same thing for you that Tamoxifen can do. Tamoxifen is a drug that women with breast cancer are put on as an estrogen blocker. They are now discovering that by consuming broccoli sprouts we can get the same effect as Tamoxifen without the side effects that Tamoxifen creates for a woman. It’s amazing stuff.

Wardee: Amazing.

Magdalena: The specific dose they are looking at is a cup of these little sprouts every day uncooked in a raw form. Isn’t that amazing?

Wardee: It is amazing. As powerful as medicine but none of the side effects.

Magdalena: Yes.

Wardee: So what is the liver connection? Can you talk about that?

Magdalena: Sure. This was really fascinating when I started doing this work. On myself when I was discovered to have estrogen dominance I was like: “This is really peculiar. I’ve been in good health and I’ve reversed my auto-immune disease and all of that good stuff. Why am I suddenly having hair shedding and fatigue started coming back and PMS started coming back?”

What I realized by doing this work and really diving deep, I had so much stuff sitting in my liver from over the years that never really was taken care of. There are different pathways in the liver that take care of different toxins. The different pathways, the sulfation pathway, methylation pathway in the liver are also responsible for elimination of mutated hormones.

What this means is that when a hormone is produced in a gland they get into the blood stream then they are delivered to the different cells all over your body to do its work. Thyroid hormone you get beautiful hair, nice skin, you don’t age too quickly you are able to have your metabolism ramped up so you don’t put on too much weight, progesterone does its own thing, estrogen does its own thing. When they do their job they get back in to the blood stream. There has to be something that filters them out. We excrete our metabolized, used up hormones, we poop them out. And what’s fascinating is that filtration happens in the liver. When our liver is really stressed out the body doesn’t focus so much on the hormones it focuses on the more life threatening toxins such as heavy metals, such as viruses. That’s what the liver takes care of because that’s what our life depends on. You can live with hormonal problems, we can survive. It’s not a very good quality of life but we can survive. You need to have a pretty well optimized liver in order to be hormonally balanced. Estrogen, for example, the methylation pathway plays an important role. So incorporating cruciferous vegetables like broccoli, Brussel sprouts, broccoli sprouts, kale, and collard greens; having two servings of those are really going to be helpful with optimizing liver health.

I want to say one more thing because we take it liberally especially here in the United States, removing women’s gall bladder it’s almost like it was this useless organ that has no function whatsoever. And I can tell you one thing and I’m curious for those of you have had your gall bladder removed can we hear from you? What I see in my community is that a lot of times when I ask this question about six months later to a year later this is when the hormonal problems really developed. And most people don’t connect those two points together. But the thing that is so interesting the gall bladder’s job, amongst other things, is to store bile. And it’s the bile that pushes things through in the liver and is hugely responsible for flushing out those hormones. So if somebody has their gall bladder removed, and has a lot of hormonal problems, you need to take care of that as well with bio-salts or just really keeping your liver really clean and your diet really clean.

Wardee: Very good. Good information.

In the comments Stacy is saying hers was removed at 21 years old and Kiffen in New Zealand (maybe I shouldn’t assume that NZ stands for New Zealand, it could be your last name Kiffen) says: “I have gall stones right now.” Michelle says: “Yes, my gall bladder was removed in 1999. Have had digestive problems like acid reflux since. I also was going through peri-menopause at the same time.”

Magdalena: Yep. Yep. (Nodding)

Wardee: Wow. That’s huge. I know, we can’t assume, we have these organs – the appendix is another, our tonsils, they are just liberally removed. We don’t really know the impact of that. I feel the same way about pulling teeth. I’m not going to remove something if I don’t have absolutely have to. We need to trust that it’s there for a purpose. And even if we don’t understand what it’s doing in out body, yet, there’s a God-given role to our overall health by what all of these things in are body and were put there.

Magdalena: Wardee can I answer one question that came in? It’s a really good question.

Wardee: Yes, please do.

Magdalena: Cruciferous vegetables even for people with active hypo thyroid or Hashimoto’s? So that’s a question that comes up over and over with the thyroid community and I’m glad you asked that, SavoringKY.

First and foremost, if you go to pubmeds (pubmed.com) and look for cruciferous vegetables or brassica family of vegetables and thyroid condition you’re not going to find a single site, just so you know. This is something that some bloggers started off with that list and copy, paste to other bloggers without fact checking started sending that around.

Now having said that, what I have seen before is that people who juice a lot of cruciferous vegetables, you know they go on this health binge and they juice a bunch of kale every day- raw – then I have seen people developing thyroid problems.

I’ve spoken to a number of different thyroid experts, including Dr. Kharrazian and Izabella Wentz, the authority in thyroid space, they both say they would not recommend raw vegetables. It’s not for sure. We don’t know if it’s causing that thyroid problem or whether they are so high in oxalates — oxalates are these little crystals that deposit themselves in the thyroid gland. Either way, moderation is key and if you do have a thyroid problem then you want to go slow on raw cruciferous vegetables. But if you have Hashimoto’s disease don’t forget you don’t have a thyroid condition, you have an auto-immune disease which means that it’s your gut and your overall detoxification system is not functioning right now. It’s not so much your thyroid that is the problem. It’s your gut that is the problem.

Wardee: That’s a great distinction to make.

When you’re talking about moderation and raw are you referring to sprouts as well? Or would they be in a different category and not be like full-grown raw broccoli.

Magdalena: I wouldn’t eat more than a cup a day of sprouts. Would I recommend more than that? If somebody feels good on them, yeah. Sure. But like doing 4 cups a day? I don’t work with cancer patients but I have heard that people doing cancer treatments will go through very, very high doses of raw vegetables.

But that’s not my space so I can comment on that. For general other things I would not do more than a cup of day of sprouts.

Wardee: Okay, great. So you have something coming up that I know everybody is going to want to hear about. It’s a free online workshop on March 12, which is Saturday. So hopefully you are all listening to this now or by Friday on iTunes so you can take advantage, a link for you everybody is tradcookschool.com/freebalance

And Magdalena, take it away and tell us what this free workshop is.

Magdalena: If you are here, this topic is close to your heart.

I want to invite you on Saturday to a free workshop that I have called Cooking for Balance (edited: this workshop is over. It was 3/12/16). The topic is how to use food to rebalance your hormones.
We’re going to be going much deeper into what we talked about today. Much, much deeper level. We are going to cover gut, we’re going to cover sugar levels, we’re going to cover the function of the liver and specifically what foods to incorporate.

I’m also going to set up context of how different symptoms will be connected to different hormonal balances that we really do not expect a lot of times. If you don’t know what hormonal problem you have, don’t worry about it. Come to the workshop and you will learn more about that.

The workshop is an hour and a half. It’s on Saturday at 10 o’clock in the morning pacific time so it’s at 1 pm eastern. I’m going to teach as much as I can within that hour and a half — it’s going to be pretty intense.

There is a replay so people can take notes because there is going to be so much information I want to give and action points to give. But there is only so much I can do.

After that there is a continuing program that goes on for 4 weeks to really dive deep – hands in, feet first, head first – into the program and do that. The workshop itself is going to teach you so much to take away and just run with it. If some people want to go deeper, you can join us for the fuller program.

Wardee: Fantastic. I love that you are making that free resource available. You’re giving us a taste and Saturday you’re going to give more practical help. And somebody that wants to go further can dive even further. I really appreciate you making this available for us.

Magdalena: Just so you know, we have already 22,000 people registered for the workshop and we have 4000 seats available for the live one on Saturday. Because the system has its limitations.

Make sure when you sign up you log in early or you’re not going to get a live seat. We’re going to have a replay for a few more days after that but I think it’s always fun to do it live, right.

Wardee: Sure. So, everybody, I hope you caught that. The link to sign up for Saturday is TradCookSchool.com/freebalance (edited: this is now over).

Saturday, March 12 at 10 am pacific. Magdalena can only have 4000 people live and there’s already 22,000 people signed up. That tells you what a need there is for this. So log in early so you can get one of the 4000 seats.

If you haven’t got one, don’t stress. You can probably keep trying in case people drop off. The other thing is, for a few days Magdalena will make a replay available. Watch your email, use the correct email address so you make sure you get Magdalena email back and take advantage of the replay. I think it’s going to be fantastic.

Magdalena thank you so much. And let’s look at the questions now.

Magdalena: Absolutely. So gallstones.

When you have gallstones, what happens is your bile is not flowing as easily as it could be from the bile duct into the liver.

So can this lead to hormonal problems?

Absolutely.

I wouldn’t say specifically to adrenal exhaustion. Adrenals are marked to deal with stress whether it’s stress coming from heavy type of work, stress from digestive issues, stress from emotional, physical, chemical, exposures – there are so many different levels of stress.

One more thing I want to say about this, it’s a good question about the gall stones, a lot of women develop gall stones when they have a dairy sensitivity so it’s something to look into as well.

Wardee: Interesting.

Magdalena: Yep.

Another question: My primary doctor just raised my level of levothyroxine but I’m wondering how much is related to hormones too? Robin is saying that.
Robin, levothyroxine is raised because your thyroid is not producing enoufh of T4 or your not converting the T4 hormone to T3. So levothyroxine is actually the synthetic version of T4 that your thyroid should be producing.

There is two issues: there is either something bothering your thyroid that you’re not producing enough of T4 that could be because you have Hashimoto’s and your immune system is attacking your thyroid that’s why you are not producing that hormone.

Or the conversion is not happening from T4 to T3 because your gut needs some TLC or your liver is not particularly functioning very well. Those are the two main reasons.

T3 hormone is what powers you up, that’s what gives you beautiful hair, you don’t age too quickly, it gives you healthy weight, energy, clarity of mind, all of that good stuff. There needs to be a little bit more understanding about this. If you need more of that medication it’s typically because of one of those two reasons.

Wardee: Great.

So Margaret is asking what if you’re on birth control.

Magdalena: (takes deep breath) Yeah.

Wardee: Hard question.

Magdalena: It’s a controversial question.

Look in all honesty, I’ll just be a straight shooter.

It’s not good.

Its synthetic hormones. Most women struggle with it. It creates a significant impact on so many things. It impairs your B12 uptake, it creates a lot of effect on your liver, and birth control pills are mineral muggers. They deplete you in zinc, selenium, vitamin D, I believe as well. There are so many side effects. Having said that, depending on your lifestyle it’s hard to find a substitute so I totally get that. Look at the natural fertility method. A lot of the women in my community use something called ladycomp where with your body temperature, you use your finger to measure your body temperature, and it creates a pattern. It tells you when you are ovulating so there are some alternatives. If you are having hormonal problems I definitely recommend as a longer term plan to get off of them.

Wardee: Great.

We are going to take one more question and then wrap up here. I’m picking this question because Angelica and KBSeries asked it. “I have polycystic ovaries what would be the best way to go to level out my hormones?”

Magdalena: Polycystic ovaries happen most of the time when we have high testosterone levels and problems with sugar.

Really the core problem with women with PCOS is sugar metabolism.

Many women with PCOS have insulin resistance or hypo/hyper glycemia. You’ve got to take care of your sugar levels, that’s the bottom line.

I’m going to be teaching this on Saturday a little bit deeper but what’s interesting is that when your sugar levels are up whether it’s glucose or insulin that will bring down what’s called the sex hormone-binding globulin. The sex hormone-binding globulin is what binds sex hormones and testosterone is the most aggressive sex hormone that we have.

So you are not binding sufficient testosterone so you tend to have a lot of testosterone that excessive testosterone can lead to polycystic ovarian syndrome.

Sugar is the core of that condition and totally reversible by the way.

Wardee: Thank you. Thank you so much Magdalena.

Well we can’t get to all of your questions in this amount of time. I want to honor Magdalena’s time because she is taking her time out of a busy day to visit with us.

I know that she’s going to go deeper into a lot of things we just barely touched on today on her free class on Saturday.

That link again is TradCookSchool.com/freebalance the class is on Saturday, March 12 at 10 am pacific (edited: this class is now over).

Once again, it’s going to be packed so get there early and if you aren’t able to get in she is going to make a replay available so make sure to watch for those emails.

All of this information is at the show notes KnowYourFoodPodcast.com/152 including the graphic of the seed rotation that we talked about at near top of the hour. It’s going to be very interesting and informative for you to go back to and reference and you can drag it and save to your computer because it’s an image file you can save for reference.

Magdalena, do you have anything else you want to add before we close here?

Magdalena: I just want to say that there is an incredible amount of work that we can do to help ourselves to feel hormonally balanced.
If you ever catch yourself saying: “I’ve always been tired. I’ve always had weak hair, I’ve always been this or that. My mom has it so I have it. I’ve never slept well in my whole life.”

It doesn’t mean it has to be like that forever.

There are incredible things you can do with food that’s custom to specific hormonal imbalances and you can help yourself without having to rely on an excessive amount of supplements. I think we are totally over-supplemented as a nation. Everybody is popping a pill and most people do not have the best results at it.

Once you understand what goes on in your body and what you can focus on there is an incredible sense of hope that can be brought and improving your quality of life to do things you never thought you could.

Wardee: Magdalena, I love that. I love that you are ending on such a positive note. You’ve given us hope that even if we say: “I’ve always been that way.” If it’s not ideal have hope that it doesn’t have to continue that way.

Through real food, nutritious food, targeted food you can reverse that.

Thank you so much for that wonderful message.

Magdalena: Thank you for having me.

Wardee: I really appreciate your time, giving us your knowledge. It’s been very wonderful.

Everybody your assignment is: TradCookSchool.com/freebalance to take advantage of Magdalena’s free class on Saturday (edited: this class is now over).

Thanks everyone! God bless you! See you later.

Magdalena: Bye, everybody!

Links Mentioned

• Magdalena’s 4-Week Class “Cooking For Balance”

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